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Quaestor
Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 57 Location: Chorleywood UK
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: "Jesus the Magician" by Morton Smith |
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This book opens up a highly original and unconventional approach to the man Josephus describes as a wonder worker. It is a fascinating read and I notice that Helen Ingram has specialised in this area. I should be very interested to know of any further explorations of this particular aspect.
Dennis
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hingram Moderator
Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 14 Location: Birmingham
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Dennis,
I would suggest John Hull's 'Hellenistic Magic and the Synoptic Tradition' as a good starting point, although finding a copy can be quite difficult. My own research focused on Smith's portrait of the Historical Jesus as a magician and I would recommend Stevan Davies' 'Jesus the Healer: Possession, Trance and the Origins of Christianity' and Graham Twelftree's 'Jesus the Exorcist' as two recent publications that engage with this aspect of Smith's argument, particularly in the area of magical spirit-possession. With regard to Josephus, some studies in the general field of magic and the NT that might prove useful on this front are: J. Samain ‘L’accusation de Magie contre le Christ dans les Evangiles’ (Ephemerides Theologicae Lovanienses 15, 1938, pp. 449-90), Eric Eve 'The Jewish Context of Jesus' Miracles', Howard Clark Kee 'Medicine, Miracle and Magic in New Testament Times' and H. J Klauck 'Magic and Paganism in Early Christianity: The World of the Acts of the Apostles'. By the way, the Greco-Roman magical materials discussed by Morton Smith are available in an edition by Hans Dieter Betz ('The Greek Magical Papyri in Translation Including the Demotic Spells') and these make for very interesting reading indeed!
Happy reading!
Helen
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Quaestor
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: Jesus the Magician |
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Richard and Helen,
Thanks to you both.
I've got a copy of "the Secret Gospel", Richard, and Ehrman deals with it extensively in "Lost Christianities". Leaving aside the forgery question,however,it strikes me as highly probable that a gnostic version of Mark could have been produced.
A note for Helen. When googling "Jesus the Magician", I came across www.rome101.com which lists 68 sarcophagus pictures showing Jesus with a magician's wand - an interesting site if you are not aware of it.
Dennis
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